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Thursday, Feb 9th 7:08am [Edit] [Quote] [IMS] [View car] |
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I was under the impression that the e30 calipers bolted right on to the 323 swing arms. The bolt spacing is different. What am I missing? |
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Thursday, Feb 9th 8:22am [Edit] [Quote] [IMS] [View car] |
Post nr. 648
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um...I think you're right.
Are you sure they're E30 calipers?
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Thursday, Feb 9th 9:09am [Edit] [Quote] [IMS] [View car] |
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The bolt spacing is the same on the E30 caliper carrier. You will need to make some mods to the carrier to fit the e21 arm. The bolt hole will need to be drilled out so the bolt will pass through and tread into the e21 arm. There is a tab that is between the bolt holes on the carrier that needs to be ground down. Then new matting surface will need to be machined down to .580 so to aline up with rotor grove correctly. The E30 brake hoses work fine on the E21 and bolt right up. I have done this now to both of my E21 and feel its better way to go. There are more options for rear brake pad compounds and availablity. |
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Thursday, Feb 9th 1:35pm [Edit] [Quote] [IMS] [View car] |
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Hi, I agree the E30 calipers fitted very easily with a little abuse from an angle grinder. I had both sides modded and fitted within the hour. I have found it much easier to find performance pads and as I have also fitted braided hoses through out I find the braking superb. |
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Thursday, Feb 9th 3:26pm [Edit] [Quote] [IMS] [View car] |
Post nr. 677
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Yep that's the problem. Someone (I think it was Ray) sold me modified "e30" calipers. Well I checked on MY e30 and they aren't the same. So I need to swap them for some REAL e30's and I should be fine.
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Thursday, Feb 9th 3:42pm [Edit] [Quote] [IMS] [View car] |
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OT
What other calipers can we cannibalise/modify(minimally) to fit the 323i rear disc brake assembly?
And anyone with pics showing the difference in pad size between the e30 and e21 rear brakes, please post. Is the brake pad size difference the main consideration or is the design of the caliper better?
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Thursday, Feb 9th 3:55pm [Edit] [Quote] [IMS] [View car] |
Post nr. 649
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Alloy rear calipers from a Golf/Jetta 4 are nice...and have a built in parking brake so you could delete the factory one for weight reduction.
jamie |
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Thursday, Feb 9th 4:20pm [Edit] [Quote] [IMS] [View car] |
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Pete,
Sent you an IM. Sorry they did not work for you. |
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Thursday, Feb 9th 5:11pm [Edit] [Quote] [IMS] [View car] |
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| imaradiostar wrote: | Alloy rear calipers from a Golf/Jetta 4 are nice...and have a built in parking brake so you could delete the factory one for weight reduction.
jamie |
Jamie any pictures? Are these MKIV rear calipers a direct swap or do they have to be modified?
Any idea what they go for and if they are better than the e30 325i ones?
Pete, guys what is the approx cost of 325i e30 rear calipers? I rebuilt my rear 323i ones back in the day - they were siezed.
thanks
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Thursday, Feb 9th 10:00pm [Edit] [Quote] [IMS] [View car] |
Post nr. 650
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look around on the vortex- you should be able to find some pics of the VW parts. You should call Aardvark and see what they're doing for their rear disk conversion for 2002's. I think they might be using a similar design.
jamie |
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Thursday, Feb 9th 10:10pm [Edit] [Quote] [IMS] [View car] |
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Hi
The VW calipersa are the ones used in the 02 disk brake kits from what i have readup on the conversion, you use the e21/30 rear disks and a spacer for the calipers, plus odifed vw hand brake cable.
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Posted
Friday, Feb 10th 8:44pm [Edit] [Quote] [IMS] [View car] |
Post nr. 564
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I've been looking at E39 aluminum rear calipers, the pads are much bigger than E30 pads, but the calipers are really light |
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Friday, Feb 10th 9:43pm [Edit] [Quote] [IMS] [View car] |
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How much should be a reasonable price for e30 calipers?? Who supplies these - junk yards? |
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Friday, Feb 10th 10:56pm [Edit] [Quote] [IMS] [View car] |
Post nr. 824
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Cheap from the junk yard. |
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Sunday, Feb 12th 5:06am [Edit] [Quote] [IMS] [View car] |
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$58 delivered for two with carriers from Vines. |
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Tuesday, Feb 14th 11:47pm [Edit] [Quote] [IMS] [View car] |
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WTF!!!???
The e30 calipers from Vines have a 3" bolt spacing like the ones Ray sold me. The trailing arm mounting flange is 2.25".
Are there different caliper spacing for different year e30's? Do I have oddbal trailing arms?
I mean I can just weld and redrill the trailing arm flange but I thought this was supposed to be a no brainer bolt on!!!! |
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Wednesday, Feb 15th 12:03am [Edit] [Quote] [IMS] [View car] |
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you could have the early 77 to 9/78 trailing arms.
The ETK shows two different types of rear calipers for the 323i. |
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Wednesday, Feb 15th 2:28am [Edit] [Quote] [IMS] [View car] |
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| redmist wrote: | WTF!!!???
The e30 calipers from Vines have a 3" bolt spacing like the ones Ray sold me. The trailing arm mounting flange is 2.25".
Are there different caliper spacing for different year e30's? Do I have oddbal trailing arms?
I mean I can just weld and redrill the trailing arm flange but I thought this was supposed to be a no brainer bolt on!!!! |
Pics please. |
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Wednesday, Feb 15th 2:32pm [Edit] [Quote] [IMS] [View car] |
Post nr. 684
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Ok here is the deal. For 2.25 spacing you can use VW type 1 calipers which have a built in handbrake.
But I have been meaning to utilize these brembo aluminium alfa calipers anyway so I'm going to weld up and redrill the mounts.
To get through inspection I will probably just mount a band brake temporarily on the inner CV joint or just put the VW calipers on for a couple of days.
BTW I now have two sets of e30 calipers for 3" spacing in excellent condition with pads, carriers and hardware. $50 a set before I put them on ebay. |
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Thursday, Feb 16th 9:19pm [Edit] [Quote] [IMS] [View car] |
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Can you tell more about the VW type 1 calipers?
What the exact year is it come from?
Does it fit exactly? What have it modify?
I have also the 2.25" spacing trailing arm  |
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Tuesday, Jan 30th 2:07am [Edit] [Quote] [IMS] [View car] |
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Sorry to dredge up and old thread, just was tinkering with the brakes and had to figure this out for myself.
I have a number of E30 rear calipers at work- both the E30 and E21 323i calipers are 2.25" spacing. My 81 323i and the calipers I have from a '79 we parted out have 2.25 as well.
I have a feeling Ray ended up with something else- maybe E36 rears or something.
jamie |
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Tuesday, Jan 30th 6:09am [Edit] [Quote] [IMS] [View car] |
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| imaradiostar wrote: | Sorry to dredge up and old thread, just was tinkering with the brakes and had to figure this out for myself.
I have a number of E30 rear calipers at work- both the E30 and E21 323i calipers are 2.25" spacing. My 81 323i and the calipers I have from a '79 we parted out have 2.25 as well.
I have a feeling Ray ended up with something else- maybe E36 rears or something.
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Has anyone heard from Ray.
He has not be on the board in ages.
Jamie I would be interested in e30 rear calipers
and the M30 bosch unit..let me know if you have these parts.
Are the e30 calipers a direct bolt on to the early 323i trailing arms? |
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Posted
Tuesday, Jan 30th 8:59pm [Edit] [Quote] [IMS] [View car] |
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They are a direct bolt on to the latter arms (with a slight dremel/grinder adjustment) The earlier arms require a major rework of the arms. |
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Wednesday, Jan 31st 3:55pm [Edit] [Quote] [IMS] [View car] |
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| redmist wrote: | | They are a direct bolt on to the latter arms (with a slight dremel/grinder adjustment) The earlier arms require a major rework of the arms. |
Can earlier trailing arms be upgraded to later trailing arms, or are they completely different? |
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Posted
Wednesday, Jan 31st 9:33pm [Edit] [Quote] [IMS] [View car] |
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100% swapable without modification. |
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Thursday, Feb 1st 3:20am [Edit] [Quote] [IMS] [View car] |
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I swear I'm not trying to create a big fight here!
I've only found one trailing arm for E21 323i's- all them same part number for all the years per ETK. I also can find only one style rear caliper for e30's. All the calipers I've checked from used parts stock at work have 2.25" mounting centers, from E30 323i calipers to E30 325ic calipers (earliest and latest, best I know).
All the larger series and later rear calipers I found had 3 inch mounting centers (E36, E28, E23, etc). I would assume this is what someone sent you.
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