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Tech Forum : m20 shorty headers?

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      - m20 shorty headers?
e21enthusiast   Posted Friday, Nov 10th 12:00am [Edit] [Quote] [IMS] [View car]
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Post nr. 34
   
eugene,oregon
hennarot 320is,topasbraun metalic 323
Any body ever used or know of anyone who has used these? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/BMW-E30-SHORTY-HEADERS-M20-6-Cyl_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33583QQihZ015QQitemZ250046472646QQrdZ1 the design looks pretty good not a ton of bends and stuff but I dunno about the length I was under the impression that longer headers were better.I just wanted someones 2 cents on these. The last thing i wana do is buy em install them with full custom exhaust then find out that the stock headers are better an these ones rob HP

Greg323i   Posted Friday, Nov 10th 1:01am [Edit] [Quote] [IMS] [View car]
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Post nr. 254
   
Melbourne, Australia
1982 Hennaröt 323i
e21enthusiast wrote:
Any body ever used or know of anyone who has used these? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/BMW-E30-SHORTY-HEADERS-M20-6-Cyl_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33583QQihZ015QQitemZ250046472646QQrdZ1 the design looks pretty good not a ton of bends and stuff but I dunno about the length I was under the impression that longer headers were better.I just wanted someones 2 cents on these. The last thing i wana do is buy em install them with full custom exhaust then find out that the stock headers are better an these ones rob HP

I just thought I'd clean up the URL

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/BMW-E30-SHORTY-HEADERS-M20-6-Cyl_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33583QQihZ015QQitemZ250046472646QQrdZ1

Reading that these are for the eta and knowing that the eta is a low-revving engine, I would think these are probably tuned for that and might not be an improvement for a higher-revving M20. That's just what I think.

imaradiostar   Posted Friday, Nov 10th 1:14am [Edit] [Quote] [IMS] [View car]
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Post nr. 939
   
Nashville, TN
81 323i, 82 525i, 85 524td, 90 535i
primary tubes are short and very large- don't expect much in the way of pulse tuning. Also the primary diameter is probably much too large for a 2.3 liter engine.

Check out Stahl headers for legitimate gains and a true long tube header.

jamie

KenDanielson   Posted Friday, Nov 10th 1:43am [Edit] [Quote] [IMS] [View car]
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Post nr. 192

Petaluma CA
'82 320is, '78 320i
You can learn a bunch about headers here:

http://www.e21motorsports.com/kendanielson/headers.html

It's not all inclusive but it's a pretty good start on understanding them so you can have a clue on what makes a good header.

ken

wharthog   Posted Friday, Nov 10th 8:24am [Edit] [Quote] [IMS] [View car]
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Post nr. 86
   
SF Bay,California, USA
1982 323i, , R1150RT
I've got a set very similiar to if not exactly these... I'm pleased with the performance. I haven't had a chance to tune the engine at all since installation. I've got the stock 323i motor. My seat-of-the-pants-meter feels like there was little (if any) increase in torque but a noticable increase in eagerness/and smoothness at high rpm. It may be wishful thinking after spending all the $$ and time. But I worked on BMW's for 7 years and have done alot of tuning so my ass-o'-meter has some cred...


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