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Tech Forum : Rear gearbox oil seal

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      - Rear gearbox oil seal
  Posted Sunday, Apr 1st 6:59pm [Edit] [Quote] [IMS] [View car]

Post nr. 276


Took the 323 out for its first good run today, did 200 miles and it drove like a dream...only problem is when i got home a good oil patch appeared on the path!
How much of a PITA is is to swap the rear oil seal on the gearbox? will i need an impact gun to shift the rear nut or will a breaker bar do the job, i suppose i need a deep reach socket aswell to fit over the output shaft?
Any advise welcome.
Ian

  Posted Monday, Apr 2nd 4:38pm [Edit] [Quote] [IMS] [View car]

Post nr. 147


Its very rare for the rear seal to leak as there are internal seals as part of the extension housing too. The majority of gearbox leaks come from the selector rod seal, it leaks everywhere and runs all over the box making it look like its leaking out the output shaft, but it usually isnt.

If however you are leaking engine oil (which i would say you probably are given the large amounts of oil being lost), then you are probably talking about the rear main seal which is actually part of the engine.

If thats the case it is a rather larger job and you will need to remove the gearbox to do so.

  Posted Monday, Apr 2nd 8:58pm [Edit] [Quote] [IMS] [View car]

Post nr. 28


Removing the trans output flange nut with an impact wrench will be very easy (once you beat/pry that lock washer out of there).

Otherwise, what you really need is to make up a breaker bar that bolts to the output flange to hold it in place while you break the flange nut free. Maybe my clutch was weak, but I found I couldn't break the nut free - it just turned the engine.

Impact wrench makes all the diff, although putting it back on I'd torque it by hand (only 75ft-lbs), for which you may still need to make up the bolt on breaker I just mentioned.

  Posted Monday, Apr 2nd 10:47pm [Edit] [Quote] [IMS] [View car]

Post nr. 277


Stripped the output flange off the box after work today, didnt mess about with the retaining washer i just turned a 30mm deep socket down to 38mm o/d which allows the socket to pass inside the retaining washer and unscrews it with the bolt.
Now i've seen the rear seal i don't think it was the cause of the leak,its still nice and flexible with no cracks so i think you could be right about the selector rod seal Madhatter.
Anyway i've got the rear output seal on order so i will replace that along with a selector rod seal.
I suppose i better check the vent valve is clear while i'm at it?

  Posted Tuesday, Apr 3rd 12:30am [Edit] [Quote] [IMS] [View car]

Post nr. 148




Spreads a long way

  Posted Tuesday, Apr 3rd 2:27am [Edit] [Quote] [IMS] [View car]

Post nr. 310


Now that's a picture worth a thousand words!!

  Posted Tuesday, Apr 3rd 1:07pm [Edit] [Quote] [IMS] [View car]

Post nr. 149


Well, 5 actually.

selector rod oil seal leaking

US guys will be jealous of the twin pipe 323i

  Posted Tuesday, Apr 3rd 5:30pm [Edit] [Quote] [IMS] [View car]

Post nr. 312


There's a bolt missing from your guibo! Maybe two.

  Posted Tuesday, Apr 3rd 9:39pm [Edit] [Quote] [IMS] [View car]

Post nr. 279


How does the selector rod seal come out? i know how to strip the linkage off the end of the rod but the seal looks way down in the casing?

  Posted Wednesday, Apr 4th 10:58am [Edit] [Quote] [IMS] [View car]

Post nr. 151


Greg323i wrote:
There's a bolt missing from your guibo! Maybe two.


3. Was taken when removing the engine and gearbox.

  Posted Wednesday, Apr 4th 11:01am [Edit] [Quote] [IMS] [View car]

Post nr. 152


sunbeam*** wrote:
How does the selector rod seal come out? i know how to strip the linkage off the end of the rod but the seal looks way down in the casing?


With the shaft all the way out, should usually be able to get at it with a pick and pull it out. If you cant, might have to take off the rear housing and drive it out from behind.

  Posted Saturday, Apr 7th 12:27pm [Edit] [Quote] [IMS] [View car]

Post nr. 281


Ok so after i bought the seals to do the jobs i got to work cleaning the oil off the gearbox and underside of the car.
Then i found the cause of the leak! A 1" crack in the tail casing running along the selector rod opening.
For a quick fix i've gobbed it up with some chemical metal, but i would like to replace the tail housing.
Does anyone have a tail housing lying around they would like to sell and ship for me?
Thanks Guys
Ian

  Posted Saturday, Apr 7th 6:24pm [Edit] [Quote] [IMS] [View car]

Post nr. 159


that funky 2 part epoxy mix stuff? thats great, ive seen it hold stuff together just like welding, doubt it will ever leak again

  Posted Saturday, Apr 7th 7:18pm [Edit] [Quote] [IMS] [View car]

Post nr. 316


Yeah, JB Weld is great stuff! I broke a bracket for my reverse gear inside the case of my Capri gearbox and JB Welded that sucker in there, not expecting it to hold at all. It actually held it for a few months until I could find a replacement case.

  Posted Sunday, Apr 8th 9:27am [Edit] [Quote] [IMS] [View car]

Post nr. 23


what type of gearbox do you have 240/242/245?

  Posted Sunday, Apr 8th 12:23pm [Edit] [Quote] [IMS] [View car]

Post nr. 160


be a 245.

  Posted Sunday, Apr 8th 12:58pm [Edit] [Quote] [IMS] [View car]

Post nr. 283


paul dyer wrote:
what type of gearbox do you have 240/242/245?


Sorry, sevre lack of info. Its a 245

  Posted Sunday, Apr 8th 8:17pm [Edit] [Quote] [IMS] [View car]

Post nr. 24


Sadly the tail end casting that,s on my garage floor is from a 242(four speed)according to the part number on it!Thats why i had to ask which gearbox.

  Posted Monday, Apr 9th 12:00am [Edit] [Quote] [IMS] [View car]

Post nr. 285


Thanks anyway Paul, how come you have so many e21 spares lying around, years of owning an e21 or a long departed donor car?
Thanks agian for the PAS pump and other bits, like i said if you want anything just ask.
Ian

  Posted Monday, Apr 9th 2:47am [Edit] [Quote] [IMS] [View car]

Post nr. 25


Five e21 cars in fifteen years and i have never sold any just dismantled them when i got a better one.Now i cannot get my latest car out of the lockup to work on it for all the bits.Hence the need for a clear out!One of these days i might finish my latest car which i got in 1996.Best not to rush these things!!paul..


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