jothoja |
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Saturday, May 26th 1:07am [Edit] [Quote] [IMS] [View car] |
Member Post nr. 9 detroit, mi usa 1983 320i |
are there any past diagrams available on replacing the starter 82 320i m10??/?
for the mechanically challenged? |
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melloh |
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Saturday, May 26th 2:06am [Edit] [Quote] [IMS] [View car] |
Member Post nr. 563 California, USA (San Jose) 1980 320is, 1991 318is |
Haynes and Chilton manuals are handy and relatively cheap (esp if used - got mine for ~5 each). If you can't get one quick enough, a look @ www.realoem.com will probably help. Conceptually, i think starters are easy/straight-forward while the hard part is access and squeezing in there. Also, please please please, don't forget to disconnect your battery (at the battery) first!!! |
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bmw_m_320i |
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Saturday, May 26th 3:42am [Edit] [Quote] [IMS] [View car] |
Member Post nr. 771 Helena, Montana none right now :( |
if possible when replacing the starter, use one from an E30 M3, or E34 535, as they have a smaller body, so installation is MUCH easier |
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Hadrian |
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Saturday, May 26th 9:09am [Edit] [Quote] [IMS] [View car] |
Member Post nr. 43
Australia, Melbourne E21 323i |
M30 starter on an M10... are you sure it works? |
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jbob |
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Saturday, May 26th 12:04pm [Edit] [Quote] [IMS] [View car] |
Member Post nr. 383 AZ, USA 81 320i |
yeah, my buddy in Cali is using a M30 starter on his 320i. I have the E30 M3 starter on mine.
the stock starters on 80-83 320i's can be a pain to remove & install...but it is possible to remove/install them without removing the intake manifold nor the air-meter/fuel distributor. During my first attempt @ replacing the starter, I thought it was impossible but I did eventually get it replaced without removing those major items.
I can't remember exactly how I did it, but I think I started by pulling the starter towards the front of the motor as much as possible (I can't remember if I disconnected any hoses back there); then angled it up or down until it got out of the bell-housing. |
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pjs323i |
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Saturday, May 26th 2:04pm [Edit] [Quote] [IMS] [View car] |
Member Post nr. 51 Canberra, Australia '81 323i |
yeah i gotta e34 starter on my 318i...previous owner did it so don't ask me how |
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g323 |
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Saturday, May 26th 10:14pm [Edit] [Quote] [IMS] [View car] |
Member Post nr. 165 California 323i 1982 |
are any mods needed for installing this other starter? what are signs of a failing starter? sometimes i get a loud nock when starting the car, or a crunch |
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Hadrian |
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Saturday, May 26th 10:24pm [Edit] [Quote] [IMS] [View car] |
Member Post nr. 44
Australia, Melbourne E21 323i |
Sign of a failing starter = Turn ignition... VVVRRRRRRRrrrrrrrr |
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bmw_m_320i |
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Sunday, May 27th 2:14am [Edit] [Quote] [IMS] [View car] |
Member Post nr. 773 Helena, Montana none right now :( |
no mods are needed an M30 is just an M10 with 2 more cylinders basically |
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BarryA |
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Monday, Jun 4th 10:18pm [Edit] [Quote] [IMS] [View car] |
Member Post nr. 190
Sacramento CA 81 320 |
A word or two of caution regarding fitment of M30 starters to K-jet M10 engines.....
A year or more ago, I pulled an M30 starter off a 735 to install in my '82 US spec 320. Looked like an easy and straight-forward project on the front end - pulled the old M10 starter, put them down side by side on the bench to compare sizes, appeared identical (but didn't take careful measurements - big mistake).
After 2 hours of unsuccessful effort at getting the M30 starter back into the spot the M10 starter came out of (and undoubtly disturbing the next door neighbors with language not fit for public consumption) I took detailed measurements and found that the M30 starter was a few MM longer than the 10 unit (about 8 mm if I remember right)- just enough that moving the fuel distributor slightly was necessary to get the M30 starter into place.
Once in place, it was also necessary to slot the hole in the mounting bracket that bolts to the block to support the front of starter to allow the bracket to fit - once bolted down, everything else fit back in place with no further issues, there have been no problems since, and the starter intended for a 3.5 liter 6 spins the 1.8 four cylinder with authority.
The above should NOT be the case with either of the smaller starters (M3 or 535).... |
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