| redmist |
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Friday, Jul 30th 11:49pm [Edit] [Quote] [IMS] [View car] |
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Post nr. 349
NY USA
357i , 325i e30 turbo |
A company called ADDCO makes a front sway bar for e21s that is a little unique. It doesn't replace your old bar but gets attached to the frame rails behind the motor. I got a PDF file for the installation if anyone is interested.
I think it has the added benefit of stablizing the control arms as well.
Although it uses some bracketry I'm will probably end up welding brackets to the frame rails.
It also comes with Urethane bushings. Cost was $139 |
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| BruceH |
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Friday, Jul 30th 11:51pm [Edit] [Quote] [IMS] [View car] |
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Post nr. 186
Atlanta, GA USA
81 323 Baur, 85 745 |
How different is this from the Alpina bar that we just did a group buy on? Mounts "behind" the engine?
Edumacate me please.
Bruce H |
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| redmist |
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Saturday, Jul 31st 1:01am [Edit] [Quote] [IMS] [View car] |
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Post nr. 350
NY USA
357i , 325i e30 turbo |
Give me your email and I'll send you the PDF.
You know those two brackets on the frame rails where the rails start curving under the car? The ones with the large holes in them? (What are those for anyway?) The bar attaches just in front of those.
The arms of the sway bar attach to the control arms.
I would think that this would pretty much eliminate any shimmy and REALLY locate the front suspension, essentially pinching the control arms between the two sway bars preventing any front or backward movement.
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| jbob |
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Saturday, Jul 31st 11:02am [Edit] [Quote] [IMS] [View car] |
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Post nr. 280
AZ, USA
81 320i |
pete, that sounds very interesting (lol, and tempting).....can u email me the pdf file as well?
email: jasonhostallero@hotmail.com
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| Jason_323i |
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Saturday, Jul 31st 11:04am [Edit] [Quote] [IMS] [View car] |
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Post nr. 87
UK, Scotland
323i 2.7 tripple webber track car. Maserati Biturbo |
Cool emal me the PDF i drop a IMS with it.
In the UK a company does a kit to double up the roll bars (one above the other) and makes the bottom one adjustable.
Jason |
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| RDAvena |
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Saturday, Jul 31st 7:38pm [Edit] [Quote] [IMS] [View car] |
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Post nr. 715
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1981 323i, 1988 545is, 1997 528i |
The helper bar for the stock sway. I wonder if my front frame will crack if it is used along with the 29mm bar |
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| JJG323 |
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Sunday, Aug 1st 3:14am [Edit] [Quote] [IMS] [View car] |
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Post nr. 141
Reading MA USA
1979 BMW 323i |
Ok Pete. Please email me the info.
I quess I am going for the gimlet or something factor here.
I have the Alpina group buy bar and also a hard to find DINAN front sway bar.
E21BMW@comcast.net,
thanks
Joe |
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| redmist |
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Sunday, Aug 1st 3:22am [Edit] [Quote] [IMS] [View car] |
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Post nr. 353
NY USA
357i , 325i e30 turbo |
Ok guys I sent the pdfs out.
Ray I was going to get the 29mm from Sherman but I saw this thing and liked the idea.
I'll be installing it next weekend and we'll see if there are any surprises. For $139 bucks it's worth a shot. |
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| redmist |
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Monday, Aug 16th 12:49am [Edit] [Quote] [IMS] [View car] |
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Post nr. 366
NY USA
357i , 325i e30 turbo |
Finally happy with the handling, compliant without sway. I was able to even back off on the rear sway as I am not losing the negative camber in the turns. All the hardware is being replaced with titanium, including the brackets, next weekend.
Here are some pictures:
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| RDAvena |
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Monday, Aug 16th 1:00am [Edit] [Quote] [IMS] [View car] |
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Post nr. 735
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1981 323i, 1988 545is, 1997 528i |
that is a snug fit. Thought it would have grabbed on to the sway bar and not the control arm. Do you have a 27mm bar in there? Looks bigger than the run of the mill 23.5mm one. |
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| redmist |
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Monday, Aug 16th 7:08pm [Edit] [Quote] [IMS] [View car] |
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Post nr. 373
NY USA
357i , 325i e30 turbo |
Ray it's a 25.something bar. It's tight but no clearance problems. I had to grind a corner of the top bracket to clear the original sway and one of the brake ducts had to be "altered" (hacked it off I'll rebuild it later).
Side benefit is that it seems to have tightened up the whole front end. No vibrations, clunks, squeaks etc. |
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| redmist |
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Tuesday, Aug 31st 11:11pm [Edit] [Quote] [IMS] [View car] |
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Post nr. 386
NY USA
357i , 325i e30 turbo |
First auto-x after new bar installed. HUGE difference. The guy with the Z3 had the second lowest time accross all the classes.
E 1 97 Z3 2.3 53.266
2 82 320i 55.242
3 00 M Coupe 57.249
4 88 M3 57.486
5 97 M3 57.625
6 98 M3 57.897
7 95 M3 58.771
8 95 M3 59.147
9 04 M3 59.973
10 96 M3 60.671
11 03 M3 conv. 61.495
12 97 M3 61.771
13 98 M3 62.329
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| imaradiostar |
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Wednesday, Sep 1st 3:03am [Edit] [Quote] [IMS] [View car] |
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Post nr. 60
Nashville, TN
81 323i, 82 525i, 85 524td, 90 535i |
I guess this explains while later and larger chassis bimmers got more complex suspension with more links!
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| jesse |
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Friday, Sep 3rd 6:58pm [Edit] [Quote] [IMS] [View car] |
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Post nr. 173
SF, USA
Dinan 1978 333i, honda insight, audi S4 |
redmist are those your times listed as "82 320i"
good job you smoked them all by a couple of seconds!
must be fun |
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| redmist |
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Friday, Sep 3rd 9:15pm [Edit] [Quote] [IMS] [View car] |
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Post nr. 390
NY USA
357i , 325i e30 turbo |
Yep. It is way too much fun but I am overdriving the car, sliding and drifting through the course.
I think I can get the guy in the modified Z3 if I "drive fast in the fast parts and slow in the slow parts". That run I tried to keep from sliding and it felt painfully slow but generated the best time. |
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| jesse |
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Saturday, Sep 4th 12:56am [Edit] [Quote] [IMS] [View car] |
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Post nr. 174
SF, USA
Dinan 1978 333i, honda insight, audi S4 |
yeah, i've only auto-x'd once, but i understand what you are saying.
enjoy |
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| g323 |
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Thursday, Apr 26th 8:31am [Edit] [Quote] [IMS] [View car] |
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Post nr. 129
California
323i 1982 |
would you send me that pdf too!
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| asterixx |
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Thursday, Apr 26th 9:53am [Edit] [Quote] [IMS] [View car] |
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Post nr. 107
Riga, Latvia
316 e21 |
..me too is interested..
ingus_li@inbox.lv
..thanks in advance!
..peace! |
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| Phasma |
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Thursday, Apr 26th 12:47pm [Edit] [Quote] [IMS] [View car] |
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Post nr. 104
Latvia, EU
E21 323i "Phantom" |
Same to me, please!
phasma@inbox.lv |
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| Reinman |
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Thursday, Apr 26th 8:12pm [Edit] [Quote] [IMS] [View car] |
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Post nr. 1
Montana, USA
1977 BMW 320i M20 Wide-body, 1988 E30 M3 |
Could I get a copy of this pdf file so that I can see how this bar attaches to the subframe?
I have a "double stacked" sway bar set up on my 77 wide-body conversion (just like they did on the racing 320i's). It works great for keeping the rear end on the ground during autocrosses.
I would be concerned that in addition to what I already have, stiffer could promote more understeer than desired. But it still might be and advantage.
Thank you,
Rein D. Gillstrom
http://public.fotki.com/Reinman/1977-widebody-bmw-3/ |
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| realcrouton |
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Thursday, Apr 26th 9:16pm [Edit] [Quote] [IMS] [View car] |
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Post nr. 119
Washington, USA
1977 320i, 1981 323i, 1991 325ic, 2000 328i |
I just checked out your 77 widebody Reinman... Awesome.
-Dave |
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| MayanArch |
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Thursday, Apr 26th 10:39pm [Edit] [Quote] [IMS] [View car] |
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Post nr. 1260
Florida, USA
Baur E21 2.7 1982, Baur E30 318i 1985, 323i 1978 |
send it my way too.... icarus@icarusflares.com |
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| ece323i |
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Saturday, Apr 28th 6:19am [Edit] [Quote] [IMS] [View car] |
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Post nr. 4
Houston
'81 323i '86 325e |
I would like to have the pdf file also.
Thanks,
bwhite@vail.net
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| Greg323i |
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Saturday, Apr 28th 5:18pm [Edit] [Quote] [IMS] [View car] |
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Post nr. 331
Melbourne, Australia
1982 Hennaröt 323i |
Ya might as well post a link to the pdf! |
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| Boost_me |
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Sunday, Apr 29th 3:27am [Edit] [Quote] [IMS] [View car] |
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Post nr. 198
Victoria, Australia
1981 BMW 323i |
I agree, or you could just send it to me too...... 
boost_me@aapt.net.au |
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| NSR21L |
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Sunday, Apr 29th 12:35pm [Edit] [Quote] [IMS] [View car] |
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Post nr. 28
Sydney NSW
BMW E21 323i |
Sorry can you please send me the pdf as well
droid2c@optusnet.com.au
thanks heaps |
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| bruno323 |
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Thursday, May 3rd 12:25am [Edit] [Quote] [IMS] [View car] |
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Post nr. 32
PEru
bmw 323i |
could you please send me the pdf file.. thanks!!
krepstar@gmail.com |
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| jrcook320 |
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Friday, May 4th 6:46pm [Edit] [Quote] [IMS] [View car] |
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Post nr. 1
Van Wert, OH
'81 320i |
Wow, i've never heard of this before, this could be exactly what I need to tie my front end together. Please send me the .pdf as well.
jrcook320@hotmail.com |
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| BB320i |
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Saturday, May 5th 6:15am [Edit] [Quote] [IMS] [View car] |
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Post nr. 114
Arizona
83 320i |
If you'd be kind enough, eknrtgrl@msn.com
Thanks! |
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| saibot23 |
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Wednesday, May 23rd 10:00am [Edit] [Quote] [IMS] [View car] |
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Post nr. 11
germany
e21 lumma convertible |
can i get a copy aswell
saibot23(at)gmail(dot)com
thanks |
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| Boost_me |
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Wednesday, May 23rd 12:44pm [Edit] [Quote] [IMS] [View car] |
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Post nr. 246
Victoria, Australia
1981 BMW 323i |
I never got this PDF file....I dont know if he's going to send them or not..... |
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| MayanArch |
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Wednesday, May 23rd 4:14pm [Edit] [Quote] [IMS] [View car] |
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Post nr. 1270
Florida, USA
Baur E21 2.7 1982, Baur E30 318i 1985, 323i 1978 |
Where do you get these? There are plenty of places that carry ADDCO sway bars for GM and Chrysler.......none for old BMWs.
Anyone have a part number? |
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| melloh |
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Thursday, May 24th 2:24am [Edit] [Quote] [IMS] [View car] |
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Post nr. 561
California, USA (San Jose)
1980 320is, 1991 318is |
I did a search for addco and there are plenty of vendors for their swaybars (including summit racing). But, I'm not sure if it is the same as what redmist mentioned or just another beefy swaybar (3/4"). |
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| imaradiostar |
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Thursday, May 24th 5:23am [Edit] [Quote] [IMS] [View car] |
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Post nr. 1052
Nashville, TN
81 323i, 82 525i, 85 524td, 90 535i |
shox.com has them.
jamie |
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| Jason_323i |
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Thursday, May 24th 2:42pm [Edit] [Quote] [IMS] [View car] |
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Post nr. 453
UK, Scotland
323i 2.7 tripple webber track car. Maserati Biturbo |
Hi
This thread is over 2 years old, I doubt if Pete has even checked-in, the past few months to see all of your request for PDF's
Jason |
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| Boost_me |
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Thursday, May 24th 3:55pm [Edit] [Quote] [IMS] [View car] |
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Post nr. 250
Victoria, Australia
1981 BMW 323i |
Has anyone got this PDF on the computer that they'd like to send around?? |
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| imaradiostar |
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Thursday, May 24th 8:23pm [Edit] [Quote] [IMS] [View car] |
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Post nr. 1053
Nashville, TN
81 323i, 82 525i, 85 524td, 90 535i |
I think I have a copy of that PDF somewhere, I'll have a look.
jamie |
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